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Wednesday, May 13, 2009

Rich of Medford saw the Michael Savage et al purge coming

To my readers

Richard Peterson posted the article below to his blogspot on May 3, 2009. A few short days later, Great Britain released a list of 16 people "named and shamed" by it and banned from coming to Great Britain. Most prominently on the USA list was Jewish radio commentator Michael Savage, now labeled in effect as a terrorist for criticisms of a religion other than his own. As to others on the list including Pastor Phelps of Topeka, Kansas, I understand that perhaps at least some of the people on that list never intended to go there and enrich it with their tourist dollars. Although I am generally not a fan of "shock jock" type radio, I am deeply concerned about freedom of speech issues -- both as a citizen and as a lawyer viewing where our our Orwellian 1984 society adjourned for 25 years to 2009. Richard and I have been doing some telephone and on-line collaboration and the circumstantial evidence is that the Alliance of Civilizations is lurking in the near foreground on this Great Britain move which may unfortunately presage our near global future. Read this and stay tuned. Today it was Michael Savage. Tomorrow it may be any one of us.

Constance

Free Speech in Fetters


by Richard Peterson

The Second Forum of Alliance of Civilizations has passed and the American media coverage has amounted to little more than did or did not Obama attend the Forum? One might have expected better media coverage with questions ranging from what is the Alliance of Civilizations to what is United States’ interest in this initiative. Instead, the media expressed confusion despite Turkey’s Foreign Ministry had published President Obama’s itinerary on its web site. The itinerary shows President Obama was expected to give a speech at the forum.

Heritage Foundation writer Brett Schaefer contacted both the White House and the Alliance of Civilizations seeking confirmation that the President would indeed address the conference. The White House said it simply did not know. The Alliance responded it would neither confirm nor deny the President’s attendance. If what the Alliance has planned for us is such a good thing, why not be more forthcoming? Why does the media neglect to give this coverage? In Hitler’s Germany, a resistance group known as the White Rose wrote in their first pamphlet:
This eerily describes present day governments whose politicians have eroded them giving favor to global governance, doesn ’t it? These days, I believe the media is contributing to similar treacherous, systematic abuse. Yet, along with the rest of us, the media, too, shall soon learn of its fate. What a shock it should be as they learn they assisted in sealing it.

This September the UN General Assembly will vote whether the Alliance of Civilizations initiative moves from that of preparatory to activation stage. The Alliance openly calls for tight controls on free speech. A Media Rapid Response force has been established to provide newspapers and television stations reporting “guidelines” during times of crisis, particularly in the area of where politics and religion intersect. Given the system of global governance intends to unify religion and the state rather than maintain separation, everything now falls within this intersection. To ensure that media coverage adheres to a code of conduct, the Alliance of Civilizations has called for journalistic accreditation as well as a review board which will monitor news coverage. The Alliance, to show it upholds the principles of a free press, says that the he media will be “self-regulating” although it acknowledges that “regulation is not possible without pressure to bear”.

There are two individuals whom I would like to credit for recently drawing attention to the Alliance’s global gag on free speech. These articles are by Claudia Rosett writing for Forbes and Brett Schaefer writing for Heritage Foundation . These journalists get it. Claudia Rosett has clearly spent time reading the Alliance of Civilizations materials. Quoting from Rosett : Among the latest attacks on free speech include the resolution to combat defamation of religion which was voted on by Human Rights Council last March (analysis here ). This defamation of religions framework has its way of appearing throughout the interlocking UN initiatives. The Alliance of Civilizations is committed to making it a high priority.
# posted by Constance Cumbey : 9:00 PM Comments: 1 – 200 of 211 Newer› Newest» Constance,

Do you have a list of those blacklisted, if so was reason given publicly?
# posted by Blogger  JD : 11:10 PM   5/13/2009

Hi JD,

The list of the 16 "least wanted" includes Michael Savage.

Also Baptist pastor Fred Waldron Phelps Snr and his daughter Shirley Phelps-Roper, Hamas MP Yunis Al-Astal, Jewish extremist Mike Guzovsky, former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard Stephen Donald Black, neo-Nazi Erich Gliebe, Artur Ryno and Pavel Skachevsky, the former leaders of a violent Russian skinhead gang, preachers Wadgy Abd El Hamied Mohamed Ghoneim, Abdullah Qadri Al Ahdal, Safwat Hijazi and Amir Siddique, Muslim activist Abdul Ali Musa (previously Clarence Reams), murderer and Hezbollah terrorist Samir Al Quntar and Kashmiri terror group leader Nasr Javed.
# posted by Anonymous   Len : 11:38 PM   Where is the ACLU? It's silence is deafening.
# posted by Anonymous   Len : 11:39 PM   Len,

Thanks for the list. I can see legit reasoning behind a lot of these names, except Savage, Phelps, and Phelps-Roper. I assume these were propably for negative comments about homosexuals, or something to that extent. If you can share more, consider my interest peeked.
# posted by Blogger  JD : 11:43 PM   Len,
The ACLU is trying to get Obama to show the torture pictures..

Their lawyer whose name is a Muslim one is fighting Obama's claim that it is potentially dangerous to the US troops on the field.

Joyce
# posted by Anonymous   Joyce : 12:37 AM   ACLU Founder, Roger Baldwin: "...the goal is Communism." Will
# posted by Anonymous   Anonymous : 12:39 AM   I made a number of comments on Rich's blog about the history of Muslim jihad, with articles that give quotes from the Quran. Ignore Dorothy's remarks and you will see the nature of Islam's desire to dominate.

One of the great strategies of this AoC initiative to ban freedom of speech will ultimately cause the world to come into submission to Islam, but not allowing people to voice their disagreement with the religion. I'm not denying the New Age aspect of the UN and its influence, but the UN is clearly favoring Islam. Perhaps this is because Muslims comprise 1/4 of the world population. As I said, and I will repeat, HaSatan does not care what kind of deception he keeps people in, just as long as they are deceived.

It is interesting to note in Muslim countries voicing disagreement or changing one's religion from Islam to something else is punishable by death, depending on the country.

This allows the work of jihad, ( Islamization of the world by any means to go forth unhindered).

Some of the participants in the Alliance of Civilizations, like the Jordanian royal family do not allow the very peace and tolerance they proclaim in their country.

The idea of peace is that Muslims must stay Muslim, they should support a Palestinian state and anyone deviating from this position is persecuted. There are things going on in Jordan today, that the government is well aware of that are in direct contradiction to the AoC mission statement.

There are believers in Yeshua in many Muslim countries, some who love Israel. If this ever came out they would be imprisoned or killed.

This so-called religious tolerance of AoC is one-sided. If people agree with their brand of peace and tolerance, it's okay. Muslims who leave Islam are not tolerated.

European governments will be submitted to Islam, and with Obama as our President, I'm not sure how much longer before US follows suit.

I hope you all take a careful look at this website:

http://www.ing.org/

If we tried to go into schools and explain Biblical beliefs it would not be tolerated, but look what US is now accepting.

The truth is, thankfully, most Muslims neither study or follow Islam, the way it's supposed to be followed. Most Muslims have been raised with Islam and there are very strong protections to keep people in the religion, by fear and social pressure, particularly those that live in Muslim countries. In spite of that, many Muslims today are coming to know Yeshua through dreams and visions, through television, radio, etc. Most of them when they do, will be the first to critique Islam.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Muslims4Jesus

http://tiny.cc/kJf56

God is pouring out His Spirit today, on Muslims because He loves them and wants them to come to a saving knowledge of Yeshua, so we should not be against Muslims, so I just want to be clear about that.

If you know a Muslim, share the love of Yeshua with them. They have no assurance of the forgiveness of sin unless they die in the cause of jihad.

This is a kind of interesting fellow, a former Pakistani Muslim who knows Yeshua and loves Israel:

http://www.abrahamic-faith.com/

Abba is doing interesting things in our days...so with all the bad, be encouraged and keep sharing this good news while we're still free to, here in the West. In many places it is forbidden.
Joyce
# posted by Anonymous   Joyce : 1:17 AM   It was an excellent and timely article Rich. Thanks for all your diligence in researching to help us stay informed. Much thanks to Constance also for sharing so much of her time and research with all of us, both here and on the Micro Effect twice each week on 'My Perspective'.

JD:Here is the BBC article from May 5, 2009. Note to any who don't know,Michael Alan Weiner is Michael Savage. Yep, he is definitely rough around the edges, (:~o but
8 out of 10 times he says what most of us are thinking but don't have the nerve to say out loud. Some of you may have noticed he has recently begun writing for World Net Daily.
Some years ago when I tuned in to his radio program for the first time,I was unsure of what to think. But after a while, after I got over my initial shock, and started to actually listen to what he had to say, I began to feel respect for the boldness and honesty I was hearing, as well
as his refusal to play by the the politically correct rules - he makes me think and I like seeing someone willing to tell it like it is and show some backbone. I don't necessarily agree with everything
he says, but I 100% stand behind his and all us to express our free speech rights on or off the public airways.

BBC article 5/5/09

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8033060.stm

UK 'least wanted' list in detail;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8033319.stm
# posted by Blogger  Rudi : 1:24 AM   Under these rules about not criticizing religion, this fellow would be muzzled:

http://www.muslimjourneytohope.com/

Watch his testimony..

Joyce
# posted by Anonymous   Joyce : 1:27 AM   And we in America, don't have to put up with this:

http://www.onefreeworldinternational.org/?q=behindenemylines

Sorry, but I thought you should see the realities...

Joyce
# posted by Anonymous   Joyce : 1:37 AM   The pope has asked for a 2 state solution. So much for a "non-political" pilgrimage to the Holy Land.

http://tiny.cc/hJsbD

Well, we have Islam, the Catholic Church, EU, US, UN, Russia all in agreement. We must be getting closer folks:

Joel 3:2 I will agather all the nations And bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat. Then I will center into judgment with them there On behalf of My people and My inheritance, Israel, Whom they have dscattered among the nations; And they have edivided up My land.


Of course there are many pragmatists in Israel itself that believe this is the solution, so obviously they don't stand on the promises of God.

This week's Torah portion is about the shmitta, and the yovel. God removed Israel from the Land, when they did not obey and let the Land rest on the year of Sabbath ( the 7th year). The yovel, the return of the Land on the 50th year is another topic covered in the Torah portion.

For those who think, God is not concerned with the Land, think again.

I understand when secular governments look pragmatically on the subject of the Land, but when those who claim to be attached to the Scriptures don't get it we have a serious problem. I'm not singling out the pope. This is a malignant cancer which has metastasized:

http://action.cmep.org/t/4030/petition.jsp?petition_KEY=173

http://tiny.cc/e37qw

When people who claim to believe in the Bible, but chop out "inconvenient truths" from its pages, we call this apostasy.


Joyce
# posted by Anonymous   Joyce : 2:36 AM   Rudi,

Thanks for the link.

Susanna,

From the last thread, thanks again. I must share with you the tremendous amount of joy that my wife bestowed upon me this morning. While sharing with her the info you left for me, she told me her main concern was to be able to show her boss where these teachings are wrong. She has accepted the fact she may lose her job in the end, so long as she is able stand firm in her beliefs and share her concern for someone else.

She already knew exactly when, where and how this could become a violation of her rights, as part of her job is to make sure her office stays within its employees individual rights. None of us really know how much longer we will still have them, but for the time being we will still gladly excercise them. Although, I pray it doesn't come to that. Not that we are worried about the possible loss of work for her, if that is our Fathers will then so be it. We don't want to see another person lost in this confusion.
# posted by Blogger  JD : 7:49 AM   Crimestoppers and Sussex Police joined forces for the campaign called "Too Much Bling, Give Us a Ring".

People are urged to report their suspicions about apparently wealthy people with no legitimate income.

Criminal assets worth £1.5m were forfeited and confiscated by Sussex Police between April and December 2008.

A police spokesperson said the government had returned £167,000 to the force in the last quarter.

http://tinyurl.com/otgt86

Okay, now I am all for trying to stop money laundering and ill gotten money. However this is simply a way to encourage people to rat out their neighbor. How many will be wrongly targeted with investigations just because someone thinks they are driving too nice a car? We are seeing way too much of this type of "help out your local big brother". Is Sussex really that over run with crime? Last I knew this was a place where the over privaledged vacationed.
# posted by Blogger  JD : 8:58 AM   JD,

Again, I am glad to have been able to help.

My husband once left a job when he discovered things going on that didn't square with his conscience.

His resignation resulted in a pay cut of several thousand dollars.

Neverhteless, I supported him 100% because I believe that money earned under such circumstances never brings a person any luck.....at least none that lasts.

I have to say that God has been very good to us and we have been blessed far beyond what we would have ever thought to ask for!

For a while, money was tight, but within a couple of years, my husband recouped the money he lost and then some!

The irony is, moreover, that the person for whom my husband was working went out of business not long after my husband resigned.

Praise God!
# posted by Anonymous   Susanna : 9:23 AM   Joyce,
I would love to say that your remarks amaze me but, unfortunately by now, I am immune to your contradictions and pious stances regarding how right you are and how wrong everyone else is (by your standards, Heaven will be filled with the saints and YOU). You have refused to allow any differing ideas on this blog to be made without your preaching them right out of this comments section, to the detriment of many here seeking the truth. Now you have gone one step farther! Isn't it bad enough that Dorothy refuses to comment here and has chosen to post her insights on another blog specifically because of your malicious attacks? It's not good enough for you that BECAUSE of YOU she has sought out another forum?! NO, your biased bashing can't stop there, you actually 'followed' her to the new forum and harass her there! The irony in it all is, you write (at 1:17 AM), "Ignore Dorothy's remarks" and the rest of your post criticizes and examines the detriment of the AoC's banning the FREEDOM OF SPEECH! Although you don't necessarily have that capability yours frrwximj. omega damer konstellationelf (Thank God), you do, by your harsh criticism of others quell their WANT to even attempt to discuss anything with you...not even the weather!
You end your post with "Abba is doing interesting things in our days...so with all the bad, be encouraged and keep sharing this good news while we're still free to, here in the West. In many places it is forbidden.". The 'good news' you share here in the West is done in such a harsh and 'Holier than thou' way that no one even listens to you when you 'share'. In fact, many people see "JOYCE SAID..." and completely skip everything you 'said'!
Maybe this kindergarten example will FINALLY help you understand why no one wants to 'play with you': Two little girls were playing one day, one had an oreo cookie. The girl without a cookie asked, "What kind of cookie is that?" The first girl pulled the oreo apart and smeared the side with the cream stuck to it in the face of the little girl who merely inquired about which type of cookie it was. The girl with the cookie then asked, "Would you like some?!"
You, Joyce, have smeared your 'good news' in so many peoples' faces that, not many will listen to you. You have amazingly managed to ban your own free speech. I understand, and appreciate Constance not forcing anyone off her blog but, really Joyce, how fair is it for you to suggest everyone ignore someone elses comments and read only yours?! I have said it before, GET YOUR OWN BLOG!
CS
# posted by Anonymous   Anonymous : 9:33 AM   In following up on Heinrich Eliyahu Benedikt, I noticed that he is on the Facebook of Yehuda Stolov, who is a big mover and shaker in the Interfaith movement. You can read his credentials:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yehuda_Stolov

From his site I found a site that is just in the process of being developed, with some very interesting participants and familiar names:

http://www.futureshapers.net/

Ervin Laszlo is listed on there and another familiar name Lady Fiona Montagu, who was just appointed as Global Advisor to the Club of Budapest.. She serves on the World Wisdom Council and is trustee of this organization.

There is quite on lot on these several links and I could add a lot more, but I hope some of you will take the time to focus on the ones that I have posted. I think it is significant, especially in light of Laszlo and Benedikt's ongoing involvement in Crans Montana Forum:

http://via-visioninaction.org/

Eventually, these links get you to the UN's
Faith Decade and the World Network of Religious Futurists:

http://faithdecadeforpeace.net/history/

http://www.wnrf.org/cms/index.shtml


Given the urgent push for Mideast Peace, and some of the statements by the King of Jordan, Tony Blair, the Pope, etc... I don't think any of this is accidental.

Joyce
# posted by Anonymous   Joyce : 10:17 AM   CS

Re: You, Joyce, have smeared your 'good news' in so many peoples' faces that, not many will listen to you.


It's a little hard for a person to credibly share the "Good News" once he/she becomes part of the "BAD NEWS!!!"
# posted by Anonymous   Anonymous : 12:53 PM   Dear CS,

I agree with your post but I want to point out that nearly everyone here at this blog likes Joyce, and that this continues to be true irrespective of how she treats others.
# posted by Anonymous   Hear No Evil : 1:14 PM   Hear No Evil I beg to differ. I highly doubt nearly everyone here at this blog likes Joyce. She has either driven people to near madness thus making them abandon commenting on this site or those of us who continue to be a part, keep our keyboards quiet for the sake of having to trudge through 90 or so "Joyce says" posts in a comments section of only 136 comments! If you notice, hardly anyone ever tries to show her the err of her ways anymore. You can lead a Joyce to her own blog but you can't make her post! Ha!
# posted by Anonymous   Anonymous : 1:52 PM   JD,

Here is some more information on Jon Gordon that I thought you might want to see.

ERWIN MCMANUS: A SECRET BEHIND THE SECRET
Jon Gordon is the author of a book called The 10-Minute Energy Solution. Ironically enough, Ray Yungen wrote about Gordon and his book in A Time of Departing. He wrote about it to show further proof of Ken Blanchard's embracing of the New Age, for you see Blanchard had endorsed Gordon's book. Listen to what Yungen said:

In early 2006, a book hit the market called, The 10-Minute Energy Solution by Jon Gordon. The book is filled with suggestions on how to improve energy levels through meditation, yoga, breathing exercises, and other such techniques. Throughout the book, Gordon quotes favorably from the Dalai Lama, meditator Daniel Goleman, Thich Nhat Hanh, New Agers Marilyn Ferguson and Wayne Dyer, and from A Course in Miracles. Gordon promotes panentheism (God in all) by saying things such as: "You came from this source [speaking of God] and you are this source."

Jon Gordon is as New Age as it gets. On Tuesday morning we read an article from Gordon's recent newsletter. The article is titled "The Secret Behind the Secret." In discussing the new film, The Secret, Gordon states:

The law of attraction [what The Secret is based on] is important to share and it's a big part of my new book, "The Energy Bus," which tells the story of a man who uses the law of attraction to help turn around the negativity, fear, adversity, and challenges in his life. In understanding the law of attraction many are now realizing that they are involved in the creation of their lives; that their energetic thoughts, beliefs and actions have an impact on the world and in imprint on the energy fabric of the universe.

You see, Gordon likes The Secret because he believes that God is in all creation. And The Secret teaches that God is in everyone; actually it teaches that we are God. Listen to The Secret:

We are the creators not only of our own destiny but also of the Universe ... We are all connected, and we are all One (p. 175).

No matter who you thought you were, now you know the Truth of Who You Really Are. You are the master of the Universe. You are the heir to the kingdom. You are the perfection of Life ( p. 183).

You are God in a physical body ... You are all power ... You are all intelligence ... You are the creator ( p. 164).

Few could deny, after hearing these statements that The Secret is pure occultism, especially when we realize that the author of the book is a disciple of "the teachings of Abraham," 1 which is a group of spirit guides (demons). But listen now to what Jon Gordon says next in his article. To him who has ears, let him hear:

While having dinner the other night with Erwin McManus, author of "Soul Cravings" and a person who has had a profound impact on my life, we discussed The Secret and Erwin made a great point that we need to explain there is a secret behind The Secret.

God gave us free will and the power to choose. In choosing to have faith and believing in a brighter and better future, cultivating a grateful and appreciative heart, and practicing forgiveness we open ourselves up to amazing possibilities. We become a vessel God can use to mold into the people we were born to be... who share the love we were meant to share.

We are co-creators of our life with God. We are both creating and being created at the same time. The universe is not some magic genie that's says, "Your wish is my command," bringing you any car, house, or amount of money you desire. The Secret does not exist to satisfy your every wish but to help us become the kind of people God can use to make His ultimate wish come true - Heaven on Earth and inside each one of us.

Erwin McManus resonates with The Secret and with Jon Gordon....read more....

http://www.lighthousetrails
research.com/mcmanus
secret.htm
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In the "Yoga - cise" paragraphs below, one is reminded of THE GOLDEN COMPASS in which so-called "daemons" in animal form and of the opposite sex were attached to everyone beginning as children.
THE GOLDEN COMPASS
http://tinyurl.com/2v7kb2


Addicted to New Age energy

Jon Gordon is a New Ager, who openly promotes Yoga, Qigong, Tai Chi, meditation, and more on his website

( http://tinyurl.com/24tx3j ).

On page 8 of his article, "The Energy Addict's 7 Day Plan For Raising Healthy & Positive Kids," Gordon even promotes Yoga for children:

Yoga-cise

Children’s yoga is becoming very popular and it is great to teach them at a young age. Many of the yoga postures are named after animals and this makes yoga fun for children. You can either buy a children’s yoga video or look for a children’s yoga class in your city or town......

Gordon wrote the books Energy Addict: 101 Mental, Physical, & Spiritual Ways to Energize Your Life (September 2004), and The 10-Minute Energy Solution (December 2005), both of which were endorsed by Ken Blanchard

(http://www.jongordon.com/
books.html ).

And in Blanchard's latest endorsement of a Jon Gordon book, he leads the reader to get onboard "the right bus;" a bus fueled by New Age "positive energy":

If you want to fuel your family, your career, your team, and your organization with spirit, read this book. Jon’s energy and advice will leap off the page and help you cultivate positive energy in everything you do—and you will make the world a better place for your having been here. Thanks, Jon, for pumping us up and making sure we get on the right bus. [The Energy Bus, January 2007,

http://www.jongordon.com/
theenergybusbook.html

In the Expanded 2nd Edition of his book, A Time of Departing, Christian author and apologist Ray Yungen has this to say about one of Jon Gordon's books and his spirituality:

...in early 2006, a book hit the market called, The 10-Minute Energy Solution by Jon Gordon. The book is filled with suggestions on how to improve energy levels through meditation, yoga, breathing exercises, and other such techniques. Throughout the book, Gordon quotes favorably from the Dalai Lama, meditator Daniel Goleman, Thich Nhat Hanh, New Agers Marilyn Ferguson and Wayne Dyer, and from A Course in Miracles. Gordon promotes panentheism (God in all) by saying things such as: "You came from this source [speaking of God] and you are this source." [Lighthouse Trails Publishing, 2006, pp. 164-165]

Gordon's panentheism is further illustrated in his August 1, 2005 The Energy Addict newsletter, where he attempts to reduce the Biblical Creator and Sustainer of the universe to a mere "source and force" or "whatever":

The way I see it, God, the universe, intention, or whatever you wish to call the source and force from which everything emanates and gives everything life is really big and has a lot of energy-perhaps an infinite amount of energy. This energy makes the world go around. It moves our legs, lights up the stars and fuels every living creature on earth. With so much energy in the universe I often wonder why as energy beings many of us expect so little of ourselves and the world around us. As an Energy Addict we must tap our share of infinity. There is so much energy in the universe even if we tap a big share, there will still be plenty of energy for everyone else....read more....

http://www.letusreason.org/Ecumen15.htm
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Friday, June 20, 2008

JON GORDON, AUTHOR OF THE NO COMPLAINING RULE IN HIS OWN WORDS

“After college until about 32 I was drawn to new age writers, Buddhism and quantum physics. I always saw the world in terms of energy. I never liked organized religion and never went to church. Never felt at home there. I thought Jesus was a great teacher and messenger and enlightened being......

.......“Then after a conversation I had with a Buddhist energy healer (not the usual way most people find Jesus) it all became clear to me and I walked out of his office committed to following Jesus. I was baptized on Palm Sunday, 2007. People think that only Christians can point you in the right direction but for me it was the fact that God used everyone in my life to show me the way. God brought me to my friend Daniel. He brought me to Erwin McManus. He brought me to Rob Bell. He brought me to the Buddhist energy healer. He brought me to Jesus. And now he is bringing me to those who are stuck and need God more than ever.”http://www.assistnews.net/Stories/2008/s08060135.htm

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While Jon Gordon doesn't appear (so far) to have any direct ties to the Institute of Noetic Sciences, Ken Blanchard, who has promoted his books, does appear to have such ties.

THOUGHT LEADER GATHERINGS

The Twin Cities Thought Leader Gatherings have included individuals from the following organizations:

(Among those included are individuals from the Institute of Noetic Sciences and The Ken Blanchard Companies. Click onto link below.)

http://tinyurl.com/oc25v6
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DISCOVER AND MANIFEST YOUR ULTIMATE DESTINY SYMPOSIUM

http://tinyurl.com/qgsnzy

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BOTH Ken Blanchard and Institute of Noetic Sciences co-founder (along with Paul Temple) Edgar Mitchell are "graduates" of the so-called "Hoffman Process."


KEN BLANCHARD AND THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT

".....The list of Hoffman Process graduates is impressive and sometimes surprising. It includes the likes of international management guru Ken Blanchard and Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell. It contains an abundance of psychiatrists (like TM doyen and author Harold Bloomfield) as well as professors of psychiatry" (ibid., emp. mine)...read entire article.......

http://tinyurl.com/ptrhht
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KEN BLANCHARD AND THE HOFFMAN QUADRINITY PROCESS

http://tinyurl.com/r4hxdj
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Check out page 54 at the following "noetic.org " link

http://www.noetic.org/
research/files/Bleep_Study_
Guide.pdf
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Here are some related links where "new labels" for "old errors" are listed.

ENERGY MEDICINE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_medicine
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LIST OF BRANCHES OF ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE

http://tinyurl.com/pyyn5p
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JON GORDON'S ENERGY TIP: THE SCIENTIFIC BENEFITS OF PRAYER

http://www.jongordon.com/
012306TheScientificBenefitsofPrayer.htm

I posted this on the previous thread by mistake. That is why I am posting it again here. LOL I had better take a break. I have been on this computer too long!
# posted by Anonymous   Susanna : 6:49 PM   HOFFMAN QUADRINITY PROCESS -

formerly known as

FISHER-HOFFMAN PSYCHIC THERAPY (FHPT)

When I discovered that astronaut and IONS co-founder Edgar Mitchell along with Ken Blanchard was a "graduate" of the Hoffman Quadrinity Process, I did a little snooping around and discovered something very interesting; namely that the Hoffman Quadrinity Process is merely a cover for the promotion of the occult/neo-gnostic "Perennial Philosophy."

See pages 2 and 3 at the following link.

THE QUADRINITY IS A MODEL FOR INTEGRAL BEING

The Quadrinity is a framework for understanding human behavior and development. All
four aspects of the self, Spiritual Self, Physical Body, Emotional Self and Intellect are interrelated.
When they are integrated, there is inner harmony, wholeness and love.
For thousands of years, human beings have attempted to understand and come to terms
with the mystery of life and of creation itself. One enduring notion maintains that the “source”
of everything is a nonphysical, intelligent, loving spirit, or being and that we are connected to
that spirit. Aldous Huxley called this the “Perennial Philosophy.” Though the exact manner
in which people have viewed this higher intelligence varies from age to age and culture to
culture, the knowledge of its existence persists, even with the ascendancy of science and technology. Ken Wilber described “perennial philosophy” in the following way: “Reality, according to
the perennial philosophy, is not one-dimensional; it is not a flatland of uniform substance
stretching monotonously before the eye. Rather, reality is composed of several different but
continuous dimensions. Manifest reality… consists of different grades or levels…. At one end
of this continuum of being or spectrum of consciousness is what we in the West would call
‘matter’… and at the other end is ‘spirit’ or ‘godhead’ or the ‘superconscious.’”

Human beings have always searched for ways to connect and have communion with this
presence. They have used many names to describe this experience. Some call it God; some
call it the “ever present Subject.” Many also describe experience with it as ecstasy, joy, clarity,
bliss, inner peace, wholeness, and love. Even a moment of such an experience can be life
transforming. Here is what Ralph Waldo Emerson said: “Our faith comes in moments; our
vice is habitual. Yet there is a depth in those moments which constrains us to ascribe more
reality to them than to all other experiences... I am constrained every moment to acknowledge
a higher origin than the will I call mine.“ (The Over-Soul ) .....read more.....

http://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/pdfs/nls.pdf
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THE HOFFMAN QUADRINITY PROCESS COMES TO HYDE-BATH AUGUST 10-17, 2009

DearHAPAParents January 20,2009

Hyde joins the Kennedy School of Government (KSG) at Harvard as the only educational institutions to
annually offer this world renowned program.
This initial program will be open to Hyde administrators and Hyde and HAPA parents. It provides
participants with a powerful opportunity to address one’s deepest self, spirit and capacity to love. And as KSG at
Harvard has proven, personal growth and leadership training go hand in hand.
While participants in the first program will only include administrators of the five Hyde Schools together
with Hyde and HAPA parents, future annual programs will be open to all members of the Hyde community. There is a very natural bond between the Hyde and Hoffman Processes .....read more

http://hyde.edu/ftpimages/107/misc/misc_51921.pdf

HOFFMAN INSTITUTE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoffman_Institute
_________________________________

Here, the HOFFMAN INSTITUTE is discussed on the Rick Ross Cult Education Forum


HOFFMAN INSTITUTE

http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?4,23413,page=1
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The following is a "must read." It is by a "New Age" Jesuit priest who is involved with the Hoffman Process.

THE ONTOLOGICAL ODD COUPLE

The original Process, the Fisher-Hoffman Psychic Therapy (FHPT), was created by Bob Hoffman and the people he gathered around him between 1968 and 1973, most notably Claudio Naranjo.* It had to fight for a marginal existence, competing with other offerings in the world of human potential that were then beginning to appear in California. Though the firm hand of Hoffman was always present during this period, he sought input from many sources (who sometimes did not even know that Hoffman was talking to others about the same issue). But he attributed final changes to his spirit guide, Dr. Fisher, which, I will argue, was part of the story he created to make a plausible claim that a tailor from Oakland could be the source of a complete psychological treatment........

......The Inspiration
I heard Hoffman describe the inspiration for the Fischer-Hoffman Psychic Therapy many times. The rather bare outline of this otherworldly encounter never varied. In the middle of a night in 1967, the figure of a recently departed friend, the psychiatrist Siegfried Fischer, appeared at the foot of his bed and revealed to him the missing link in psychoanalytic therapy: the concept of negative love, the stream of negative behaviors unconsciously passed from one generation to the next. ....read more...


http://jesuskoan.blogspot.
com/search?q=hoffman
+institute
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The practice of psychosynthesis is a fringe psychotherapy blending various Eastern and Western methods of self-awareness. It was developed by Robert Assagioli, who for years was the Italian director of Lucis Trust, the occult organization founded by New Age leader Alice A. Bailey.17 It makes extensive use of visualization and imagery in order to contact the "higher self," which can become the means for psychic development and spirit contact.
Along similar lines, a psychic named Bob Hoffman (with the supposed help of a dead friend, Dr. Siegfried Fisher) and a psychiatrist named Ernest Pecci, developed a system of psychic psychotherapy called the Fischer-Hoffman technique, later renamed the Quadrinity Process. "This system involves imagining an inner sanctuary and a spirit guide in order to aid in receptive visualization."18 One Quadrinity teacher, Jean Porter, reveals its occult application through her book, Psychic Development (Random House, 1974).... http://www.geocities.com
/heartland/estates/
6535/visual1.htm
# posted by Anonymous   Susanna : 8:12 PM   Knowing how they prime and condition the public for their "plans", I found Farmer's new post quite facinating!

You may want to check it out ;-)

http://freiberg.blogspot.com/
# posted by Anonymous   Jaclyn : 9:46 PM   Joyce - you gave the link to;
http://www.futureshapers.net/

I first came across this site a good few months ago when trying to learn a little more about Lady M of Beaulieu. It seems to be a long time in the making, however, it's secretariat John Renesch seems to be a busy man.

From John's site http://renesch.com/ I followed a link to his blog
http://tinyurl.com/pk8ot6
and read his article 'Do You Think Globally? Then Check This Out!' where John invites his readers to sign the 'declaration' at neo.org a new site for global citizens.

Their intentions page makes interesting reading (as does the links page)!
http://www.neo.org/intention.php

"A new global currency for good -
Every time you successfully invite someone to Neo.org you will get a Neo. [value $1 or £1, etc] Shortly there will be ways to exchange, buy and sell Neos and transfer Neos to others for goods and services. We are also working on partners who will exchange rewards of other kinds for Neos."

---

On Neo's link page an interesting institute in the making -
http://www.thenewworldbank.com/

Their slogan is - the tool to collect the solutions,the knowledge and the people that will change the world.

---

Whether or not Ervin Laszlo is involved with Neo or New World Bank, I don't know. They do however seem to be very much in the same ethos as his Global Martial Plan.

There seems to be a big NA effort on this year to get people signing up to pledges and declarations!

~K~
# posted by Anonymous   Anonymous : 11:29 PM   DISCLOSURE EVENT?????

http://www.history.com/content/this-changes-everything
# posted by Blogger  Armageddon Thru To You : 12:35 AM   K,
Thanks for the additional info. I missed your earlier post. It's interesting to see all these connections and I agree, the signing of documents seems to be in fashion nowadays, even among bible believers and almost appears to be some sort of conditioning.

Just this last year or so, it seems there was the Evangelical Manifesto, the Creation Care group, the Common Word, the signers for a two state solution and probably many more that I missed.

I always think of Joshua and the Gibeonites, ( Josh 9) and the spiritual implications of signing covenants.

I think of it as spiritually attaching yourself to something and also a sort of conditioning where people not only make a decision, but they take action. We become desensitized to God's Word. Prior to this Joshua had great victory, but signing the covenant with these deceivers was catastrophic for Israel. He forgot to consult with God.

Scripture warns us about taking vows or oaths. Signing ones name to a covenant or manifesto would also bind one, spiritually, so personally I don't think documents are innocent even if they are not New Age/one world government ones.

Joyce
# posted by Anonymous   Joyce : 1:30 AM   Susanna: Re: Hoffman Quad.
When I read your recent post that included stuff about people consulting the dead I remembered another experience with the government schools in my area. Also around the time I started to investigate what our child's government school was up to I became aware of the activities of a man who was then living in my area (in my school district). He had graduated from the same government school where my child was in the PACE "gifted" class and was my age. After college and jobs in "education" and "journalism" he was now running a NA business. He was non-profit because he called his business "education". His non-profit he called "Light". He wrote books, published them himself, re-published other books of the occult type and HE TAUGHT CLASSES FOR SCHOOL TEACHERS. He called those The Enlightened Classroom. A couple of women in the area worked for him and went around soliciting local business people to donate sums of money to his non-profit (which they wrote off, I assume) and the money was supposed to pay for local school teachers to take his classes. I identified several local schools whose employees took those classes. Local college and university teachers also took those classes. One of the women who worked for him also owned a local book store and sold his books. When I went to her store I found NA books for young children, such as one book by Elizabeth Kubler Ross. I also found a very large banner on the wall that was from a local kindergarten class and the children had signed their names to it and it thanked the book store owner for the tour of her store that their teacher had taken them on, a field trip as it were.I believe that teacher was one who had taken his ENLIGHTENED CLASSROOM class. Some of his books he co-wrote with a man (a doctor) and the books purported to be interviews with famous people after they had died and were now advising from the great beyond. I am purposely leaving the names of these men out of this but this is just a bit of the story. The man I am writing about moved down south and still comes to my area to conduct his, shall we say, seances. His contact people here are a local attorney and a local big business man. Yes, truth is stranger than fiction. You can Google his name and find his books for sale everywhere.
# posted by Anonymous   Anonymous : 5:44 AM   Anonymous 5:44 AM

I know exactly who you are talking about, and since you have decided not to name names, I will respect that.

However, I will say this much...LOL I didn't know that one had to consult the dead in order to learn how to properly "break wind"!!!
# posted by Anonymous   Susanna : 8:27 AM   Re the Joyce discussion. Sometimes Joyce does make very important contributions.
Sometimes, too, I find her lengthiness irritating. Everybody knows, or should know, how to use the "collapse comments" feature. Let's all stop the sniping, ok?

Constance
# posted by Blogger  Constance Cumbey : 9:06 AM   I have a question...any insight is greatly appreciated.

Who do you think the woman in Rev. 17 and 18 is? Some say America, but I'm not sure about that, any opinions?
# posted by Anonymous   Jaclyn : 11:07 AM   5/15/2009

Joyce wrote: "European governments will be submitted to Islam, and with Obama as our President, I'm not sure how much longer before US follows suit. "

Dear Joyce,

It is sooner than you think. The Hawaii legislature is following Eurabia and Londonistan by having declared an "Islam Day" in the US: a first.

There is no "Christianity Day" or "Judaism Day" but there will be an Islam Day if the Jewish governer, Linda Lingle, signs the bill.

http://tinyurl.com/oq6vho

If you could shake your obsession for converting the world, like Muslims, you could be more effective in combatting Islamic encroachment.

Len
# posted by Anonymous   Len : 11:15 AM   CLAUDIO NARANJO AND THE "HOFFMAN PROCESS"

In an earlier post on this thread, I quoted an article at the BUDDHA, S.J. site entitled ONTOLOGICAL ODD COUPLE - and the Origins of the Fisher-Hoffman Psychic Therapy, ( a.k.a. Hoffman Quadrinity Process) which reads:

The original Process, the Fisher-Hoffman Psychic Therapy (FHPT), was created by Bob Hoffman and the people he gathered around him between 1968 and 1973, most notably Claudio Naranjo.* It had to fight for a marginal existence, competing with other offerings in the world of human potential that were then beginning to appear in California. http://jesuskoan.blogspot.
com/search?q=hoffman
+institute
_________________________________

Here is an excerpt from Naranjo's Wikipedia biography:

CLAUDIO NARANJO

Claudio Naranjo is a Chilean (born November 24, 1932, in Valparaíso) anthropologist and psychiatrist who is noted for his inter-disciplinary work with mind-altering substances as well as the Enneagram of Personality and Gestalt psychotherapy.

In the 1960s Dr. Naranjo worked directly with Fritz Perls, the founder of Gestalt therapy. Dr. Naranjo is considered a major figure in the Human Potential Movement and the Fourth Way movement.

Dr. Naranjo suggests that the ideal feeling enhancer will "elicit an expansion of emotional awareness without interfering with thinking." However, given the mood-congruence of thought--that is, the effects of emotional state on cognitive functions, this aspiration may in the end prove unattainable. Dr. Naranjo was the first author to publish on the use of ibogaine in psychotherapy.[1]

Dr. Naranjo is also founder of the EduSAT program for educators which organizes periodic seminars on psychotherapeutic work using the Enneagram of Personality in the US, Spain, Italy, Brazil, Germany, France and Argentina. He currently divides his time between the aforementioned countries and his home in Berkeley, California.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Naranjo
__________________________________

Here is an excerpt from Naranjo's autobiography:

..... A fellowship of the Guggenheim Foundation allowed me to return to Berkeley after a year in my home country and University - to spend a year and a half there to pursue my studies in values and, more importantly, to grow and learn while spending most of my time at the Institute of Personality Assessment and Research (IPAR), where I was welcomed as a Research Associate with precious campus privileges than included computing facilities and access to the Library.

Soon, I had the opportunity of becoming Carlos Castaneda's closest friend, of becoming Fritz Perls apprentice, and of becoming part of the early Esalen community. I also attended sensory awareness workshops with Charlotte Selver. and became part of the meetings of Leo Zeff's pioneering psychedelic therapy group, meeting every two months - to which I later would successively contribute the use of harmaline, MDA, and ibogaine.

Such was the background antecedent to the work that I undertook when I returned to Chile, in 1977, where I sought to create a program including some of the disciplines that Esalen sponsored without attempting to integrate -since various brief workshops were attended then mostly by different people, while in Chile - an Esalen-in-Chile program mentioned at the time in the Esalen Catalogue - a single stable group of students were to be exposed to an integrative curriculum.

The time of my return to Chile was also that of conducting research in psychopharmacology - as an associate with Shulgin and Sargent - as well as beginning my explorations into individual psychedelic therapy and in psychedelic group therapy. Also, this was the time when I briefly traveled to attend two pioneering conferences: the University of California LSD Conference of 1967 (where I presented my research on ibogaine-assisted psychotherapy) and a conference sponsored by the Karolinska Institute under the title of "Ethnopharmacological Search for Psychoactive Drugs".....

......In 1969 I was privileged to become a consultant for the Education Policy Research Center, created by Willis Harman at SRI. I was given the assignment of reporting as to what in the domain of psychological and spiritual techniques in vogue was applicable to education, and my report was published as an SRI monograph entitled The Unfoldment of Man. Later, it became my first book, The One Quest. This was also a time when I put in writing some of my experiences in Psychedelic therapy (later published as The Healing Journey), accepted Dr. Robert Ornstein's invitation to co-author a book on meditation, and that of Dr. Ravenna Helson to engage in a qualitative examination of the differences between books representative of the "Matriarchal" and "Patriarchal" factors discovered by her at first in her research on mathematicians and then in the works of authors writing fiction for Children. This lead to my book The Divine Child and the Hero - that would be published at a much later time.

The accidental death of my only son on the eve of Easter of 1970 seemed to put a full stop to a stage of my life. The next stage began with a pilgrimage under the guidance of a spiritual teacher called Oscar Ichazo and a spiritual retreat that culminated in "a pilgrimage within a pilgrimage", a period of isolation in the desert near Arica, at the northern end of Chile, that turned out to be for me the true beginning of spiritual experience, contemplative life and inner guidance.

After leaving Arica at the end of 1970 - after 6 months - I began teaching a group that included my mother, former gestalt trainees and friends - and this Chilean group gave me the experience and confidence necessary to launch my later work in Berkeley - beginning on Sept 1971. This began as an improvisation and became a program and originated a non-profit corporation called SAT Institute, after which I mostly involved in it as a process designer and supervisor of an activity implemented by my students and a series of guest teachers: Zalman Schachter, Dhiravamsa, Ch'u Fang Chu, Sri Harish Johari and Bob Hoffman. ...read entire article...

http://tinyurl.com/oo8lmd

As has been pointed out earlier, Willis Harman is a former president of the Institute of Noetic Sciences which funded much of the early research at the Stanford Research Insititute(SRI).
Harman was also a Senior Social Scientist at SRI for 16 years.

WILLIS HARMAN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Harman

I think it is interesting that Claudio Naranjo and Miguel Serrano were both from Chile, but so far I have not found any evidence that the two men were ever personally acquainted.
# posted by Anonymous   Susanna : 11:23 AM   Regarding Claudio Naranjo, has anyone ever heard of UTOPIAN PHARMACOLOGY???


In his text for Dr Holland's illuminating Ecstasy manual, Dr Naranjo observes that the feeling-enhancers open up "...a spontaneous willingness to keep the flame of love alive in the face of pain". Dr Naranjo argues that "the gate to happiness... lies in finding another attitude toward pain". On pain itself, Dr Naranjo states: "Suffering is inextricably bound to earthly existence".


.....This may still be so; but the unfolding biotechnology revolution will shortly make suffering optional - and just conceivably obsolete. In the still-speculative post-Darwinian era of paradise engineering, an entire lifetime of E-like states is technically feasible. A minority of contemporary ethicists would further argue that such E-like states are ideologically desirable too. Whether drug-driven or genetically preordained, mental superhealth can take many guises, ecstatic or otherwise.

Utopian Pharmacology explores just one of them. On this scenario, lifelong states of empathetic bliss can become the default-setting of everyday waking consciousness.....

http://www.mdma.net/claudio-naranjo/index.html

or..."PARADISE ENGINEERING????"...

http://www.paradise-engineering.com/

see also

http://www.paradise-engineering.com/hedab.htm

_____________________________

UTOPIAN PHARMACOLOGY
http://www.mdma.net/index.html

I apologize for being off-topic, but I found this peripheral data while running a search on Jon Gordon for
JD and felt I had a moral obligation to share it.
# posted by Anonymous   Susanna : 11:53 AM   Susanna: You really made me laugh with your reply. Yes! you've got the guy! He republished Ben Franklin's book. I could go on and on about what I turned up about this guy. About the same time that I wrote about I found one of his books being sold next to the cash register at a local, long-standing restaurant. It was a restaurant review book. That's when I first saw his name in writing. Soon after that I read his name in the local newspaper in an article about a New Age convention that was held several years straight in our city. He was in charge in some way. As some of you have experienced...there are times when stuff just falls in your lap.
Sometimes I visit his website to see what he's up to and when he'll be in town. Amazing that he is able to operate as a non-profit and do all this stuff.
# posted by Anonymous   Anonymous : 12:53 PM   DavidinBC,

Its good to hear from you. I hope this finds you and your family well. I concur, most of these techniques do nothing to build any form of team work. In many ways they oftan bring strife and division. As in my wifes case, this is being used as a method to weed out those who are thought to be bringing too much negativity to the table. She has told me her boss has basicly stated, every one needs to get on the bus or else!

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